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force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help the labor movement in this country? >> look, these are primarily good people that came to america in search of the american dream, in search of a better standard of living. if you go back to the days of when we were told about nafta, we were told nafta would solve the immigration issue from mexico, but in reality what it did is depress mexican wages, depress mexican opportunity. and those people came here in search of a better life. so what we've been fighting, the labor movement has been fighting for proper immigration reform now for going on almost 20 years. and i think t
force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help...
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msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this attitude -- >> drug and human smuggling, home invasions, murder. >> we're outmanned. with all the illegals in america, more than half come through arizona. >> complete the dang fence. >> to this attitude. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> but even if john mccain has changed his tune, getting the house gop to harmonize may not be so easy. michael steel spokesman for john boehner, was decidedly noncommitmental on the i
msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this...
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he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you have to be for it across the board, and that's why it's in the bill. i think it's just -- i know it's cynical to say about washington, but it's just the right policy and the right thing to do, and i think that's why the president comes to it that way. it will be interesting to see what pieces of this get coupled together, though. the security piece, border security and enforcement, the president has already done a lot. >> yes. to the ayre of many in the latin community. >> if there were a democratic primary this time around, i think people would have talked a lot about deportations and how much enforcement there was. there's
he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you...
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two years later, obama won that vote matching what he received nationwide. they make up 27% of the state's population overall, 19% of the actual voting electorate. critics also charge the president though is making a political point by flying nine hours to make this immigration speech. five there, four on the way back. but in some ways he's returning to del sol high school where he was met with huge crowds during his 2008 campaign, a day after the group of senators unveiled their new plan for dealing with roughly 11 million undocumented people living in this country. this trip, by the way, is all about the white house saying hey, we made a campaign promise. and we're going to go to places that they made this campaign promise to show we're trying to fulfill it. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> other bipartisan groups of senators have stood in the same spot before trumpeting s
two years later, obama won that vote matching what he received nationwide. they make up 27% of the state's population overall, 19% of the actual voting electorate. critics also charge the president though is making a political point by flying nine hours to make this immigration speech. five there, four on the way back. but in some ways he's returning to del sol high school where he was met with huge crowds during his 2008 campaign, a day after the group of senators unveiled their new plan for...
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>> fox news digital politics editor and host of power play on fox news live. there you have it. the white house is a step back and let the senate roll with this could get what president obama said he wanted which is a deal on immigration reform but instead the message we got out of the white house yesterday and you heard it there is i think it's important. the white house believes it is important before we let this moment pass to acknowledge that this is happening because of the president and his significant leadership on this. they just wanted to take a moment to pause and tell us how important it was that president obama gets the credit. that's what jay carney said. how does that help what we are seeing unfold right now which is a deal with republicans on capitol hill. how does this help or not? >> it does not help. it far from helps. the speech today we expect would not help either. that is why we saw that report from the congressional hispanic caucus saying don't push the republicans too hard on this. if they are coming to the table let them come in and let them be there, be
>> fox news digital politics editor and host of power play on fox news live. there you have it. the white house is a step back and let the senate roll with this could get what president obama said he wanted which is a deal on immigration reform but instead the message we got out of the white house yesterday and you heard it there is i think it's important. the white house believes it is important before we let this moment pass to acknowledge that this is happening because of the president...
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that's because of the political reality. most of the country supports some kind of pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. you saw that president obama beat mitt romney by about 3 to 1 with hispanic voters. problem is that the divides the republican party only about a third of self-i'ded republic ee self-identified republicans support it. you have to get someone like marco rubio, putting himself on the front line, a senator with real conservative tea party credentials, putting himself on the front line and saying we need do this for the country, and we need to do this for the republican party. this is somebody now who has taken to conservative talk radio, talking about what needs to be done. the key here, john, is enforcement. because the path to citizenship in the senate version of the bill is going to be contingent on enforcement. and my big question is, how do you judge -- how do you judge whether the borders are secure. that's going to be a very big question, so as the senators try and map this out. but i have to
that's because of the political reality. most of the country supports some kind of pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. you saw that president obama beat mitt romney by about 3 to 1 with hispanic voters. problem is that the divides the republican party only about a third of self-i'ded republic ee self-identified republicans support it. you have to get someone like marco rubio, putting himself on the front line, a senator with real conservative tea party credentials, putting himself on...
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the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do that, that will be a great achievement on his part for a pretty junior senator. >> thanks very much. susan page, chris, thanks both. joining me now for more on the immigration debate, minnesota senator amy, member of the joint economic committee. this is a big deal economically potentially, senator, because as business people are telling you and as i'm hearing from business people, college presidents and others as i'm sure you've heard this is a major economic component where we're training young people from around the world giving them ph.d.s and then kicking them out. >> exactly. that's why senator h
the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do...